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Part 2: Kelly Shackelford Talks ‘Separation of Church & State’ with Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick

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July 24, 2026
Kelly Shackelford & Dan Patrick | First Liberty Insider

by First Liberty Institute • 1 minute

Can a public school stop a student from praying? Can a coach pray after a football game? Can your employer tell you to hide your faith? And is “separation of Church and State” really part of the U.S. Constitution?

First Liberty President & CEO Kelly Shackelford continues the conversation with Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, as they examine some of the most important religious liberty issues facing America today.

In this episode, they discuss the truth about “separation of Church and State,” parents’ and students’ First Amendment rights, the work and recommendations of the President’s Religious Liberty Commission, and why many people—including government officials—so often misunderstand the Constitution.

Whether you’re interested in the U.S. Supreme Court, religious liberty, or the future of the First Amendment, this conversation offers an inside look at one of the defining constitutional debates of our time.

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